Hello,
I’m trying to run OPENMC in fixed source calculation mode using an external source file and this error occurred
Can someone tell me what happens?
Thanks,
Pattarapol
Can someone tell me what happens?
Thanks,
Pattarapol
This is usually indicative of something wrong with cross section lookups. If you’re using an external source file, one possible problem is that the energies of your particles are not within the range over which cross sections are available. How are you setting the energies of your source particles in the source file?
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Hi All,
I have been getting this error after switching from the ENDF-B 8.0 cross section library to the FENDL 3.2b library. I got both libraries from Data Libraries | OpenMC. My source is a Muir distribution of 14.1 MeV neutrons. When I run OpenMC, I get the error:
RuntimeError: Did not sample any element during collision.
The problem is intermittent but seems to happen only when I have photon transport on. Is there a way to pick the ENDF-B photon cross sections but the FENDL neutron cross sections? Or another way to handle this issue?
Thank you!
Hi All,
You can of course edit the cross_sections.xml file to pick a combination of cross sections. That’s what I’ve chosen to do. Thanks!
@kevinm387 What nuclides did you have in your problem when you experienced that error? I’d like to see if I can reproduce and perhaps implement a better error check for this situation. If you’re able to share your model, that would be even better.
Hi Paul,
Unfortunately I can’t share the model, but below are all the nuclides used in the problem. Apologies that it is quite long. The problem is intermittent (in fact, as I’m typing this I’m struggling to reproduce it) but seemed to go away when I use ENDFB 8.0 cross sections for photons.
I could create an analogous model if it would be helpful. Thank you for looking into this!
Reading Y89 from
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@kevinm387 Have you found a solution? I am also having a similar problem with photon transport ON. I believe this is a cross-section lookup issue, as @paulromano mentioned. I have a very detailed list of materials for my fusion device. If I make the whole tokamak of a simple material such as LiO2 my script runs smoothly. However, if I add eurofer, sic-sic, etc., to one of my 30 materials, it sometimes works, sometimes it freezes on a random batch number and I have to kill it, and sometimes I get RuntimeError: Did not sample any element during collision..
Hi @fnovais , yes, that’s the exact behavior I was seeing too. I never pinpointed which photon xs lookup was causing the issue with the FENDL library. I’ve worked around this by editing my cross_sections.xml file to use FENDL3.2b for neutrons and ENDF-B 8.0 for photons.
If you do find where the problem is, please post it here, I’d be very interested to know!
Hey guys, I just wanted to note that I submitted a pull request yesterday fixing a photon transport-related issue that would affect FENDL. Namely, when the photon transport data did not include atomic relaxation data, I was running into strange behavior. I’m not sure if this is the source of the problem you were seeing, but it’s worth a shot trying your problem with the fix in the above link. Also, if either of you have a simplified problem demonstrating the behavior you were seeing, I can try to reproduce it and determine what the source is for sure.
Hi all, I made a simple model and tried using the FENDL 3.2b photon cross sections for the first time in several months. I’m using OpenMC 0.13.2 now.
For starters, I see a lot of errors now when OpenMC processes the cross sections, which I don’t see when I use ENDF-B 8.0 photon cross sections. Here’s a big chunk:
HDF5-DIAG: Error detected in HDF5 (1.10.4) thread 23010556172224:
#000: ../../../src/H5A.c line 425 in H5Aopen(): unable to load attribute info from object header for attribute: 'binding_energy'
major: Attribute
minor: Can't open object
#001: ../../../src/H5Aint.c line 478 in H5A__open(): unable to load attribute info from object header for attribute: 'binding_energy'
major: Attribute
minor: Can't open object
#002: ../../../src/H5Oattribute.c line 515 in H5O__attr_open_by_name(): can't locate attribute: 'binding_energy'
major: Attribute
minor: Object not found
HDF5-DIAG: Error detected in HDF5 (1.10.4) thread 23010556172224:
#000: ../../../src/H5A.c line 662 in H5Aread(): not an attribute
major: Invalid arguments to routine
minor: Inappropriate type
HDF5-DIAG: Error detected in HDF5 (1.10.4) thread 23010556172224:
#000: ../../../src/H5A.c line 1523 in H5Aclose(): not an attribute
major: Invalid arguments to routine
minor: Inappropriate type
HDF5-DIAG: Error detected in HDF5 (1.10.4) thread 23010556172224:
#000: ../../../src/H5A.c line 425 in H5Aopen(): unable to load attribute info from object header for attribute: 'num_electrons'
major: Attribute
minor: Can't open object
#001: ../../../src/H5Aint.c line 478 in H5A__open(): unable to load attribute info from object header for attribute: 'num_electrons'
major: Attribute
minor: Can't open object
#002: ../../../src/H5Oattribute.c line 515 in H5O__attr_open_by_name(): can't locate attribute: 'num_electrons'
major: Attribute
minor: Object not found
HDF5-DIAG: Error detected in HDF5 (1.10.4) thread 23010556172224:
#000: ../../../src/H5A.c line 662 in H5Aread(): not an attribute
major: Invalid arguments to routine
minor: Inappropriate type
HDF5-DIAG: Error detected in HDF5 (1.10.4) thread 23010556172224:
#000: ../../../src/H5A.c line 1523 in H5Aclose(): not an attribute
major: Invalid arguments to routine
minor: Inappropriate type
This is weird to me because I’m using HDF5 1.12.2. All the elements used in the model appear to be present in the FENDL photon cross section libraries. Attached is my input, thanks for the help!
xs_troubleshooting.py (1.5 KB)
@kevinm387 Those errors are one of the things that is fixed by my recent pull request.
Yes, I have changed my cross_sections.xml to use ENDF only for photons (neutrons remain FENDL 3.2), and it runs smoothly now. @paulromano PR is very likely the solution to our problem. Thanks!